Apostate Anonymous

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  avoidjw.org

  by Solaris11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i heard avoidjw.org is under legal attack from the watchtower society.

  it's a shame because it's such a wonderful resource.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmhopfvoim.

  does anyone know what is happening with this site?

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  Apostate Anonymous

  I feel like the WT really shows their hand when they attack websites that are critical of them. If it's truly nothing more than "Bitter Apostate Lies," then why go through the hassle of taking legal action? I don't get it
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  Is the USA too big?

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. current

  fred deftone on another thread about the tragic events at m. stoneman douglas school:.

  the us constitution wasn't written for 50 states either.

  the country has gotten too big and i think the solution is fragmentation.

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  Apostate Anonymous

  Democrats ultimately still support Capitalism. Regardless of the "Socialistic" type of policies they occasionally propose to appease Progressives.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR65ZhO6LGA

  Even the Democratic Socialism proposed by Berniecrats is just a "nicer" version of Capitalism. But still involves Capitalism nonetheless.

  Unless someone is literally calling for workers to seize the means of production and put it under the control of the workers, it's hard for me to see how they are socialists. Just saying.....
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  Have you ever gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

  (perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).

  with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.

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  The last time I ever step foot in a KH was a few years ago for my Grandfather's funeral. Sadly, I will be forced to have to step foot in another one since my grandmother is currently in hospice and could pass any day now.

  Before my grandfather's funeral, it had been at least 5+ years since I had even been within the vicinity of a KH. Aside from the TV's and new songs, everything is exactly the same.
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  US violent crimes and murders rose in 2016, the FBI says

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  i can't remember the exact topic but i think a few people predicted the same thing - that the blm movement would cause an increase in violent deaths of young black men, ultimately doing more harm than good.. and so it has: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391333.

  an 8.6% rise in the homicide rate is pretty appalling by any standard unless it started at very low levels, which we know it didn't.. this is why i object to movements based on false premises and invented media lies / selective coverage.

  the people who suffer the most are not the ones marching in the streets.

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  Why is this place turning into the Breitbart comment section?
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  Ended my last J-Dub friendship...

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wrote her a text message telling her not to contact me anymore.

  found out that she went back and told my mother some stuff about me.. i shouldnt have never given her my phone number....she's my next door neighbor.. she would always ask if i was going back to the kingdom hall, i would tell her no...people know that i'm not going back to the kingdom hall, and they still think that i'm going back.. i'm planning on moving from my hometown in 2 years and i cannot wait to leave!!!!

  so tired of people still thinking i'm a j-dub, i've told people i havent been to the kingdom hall since 2011, and they still think i'm going back.

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  Apostate Anonymous

  For those of us that fade our friends and family will always hold out hope that we return. The constant requests that we do so is the price we must pay to be able to continue having a relationship with our families.

  Couldn't have said it better. I still get invited to the Memorial and Assemblies every year LOL
  
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  First Christmas without the guilt

  by Apostate Anonymous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join.

  this will be my first time creating a topic here.

  a little backstory for me.

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  Apostate Anonymous

  I have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join. This will be my first time creating a topic here. A little backstory for me. I am a second generation JW. Currently in my early 30's. Both parents were raised as JWs, so I was thrown into the fun by way of birth. So from birth until about 13 years old, I was regularly attending meetings and book studies. Hated every second of it. Elementary school was exceptionally hard during the holidays. I was always singled out and bullied by the other kids for not participating in the holiday festivities or birthday celebrations for fellow students. Always grilled with questions as to why I didn't salute the flag or celebrate holidays. I grew to resent being a JW during those times. When I was 13, my older brother was arrested for attempted murder because of a drive by shooting he was involved in that left 2 people paralyzed (it's a really long story that I will share in greater detail another time). After that went down, my family was treated like pariahs. It really did a number on my family. They ended up going inactive for about 2 years. Once they started becoming active again, I was 15 going on 16, and by that time, I had firmly made it clear that I was not going back. They made some attempts to guilt me into going by using the whole "Look at how much you are hurting your Grandmother by not going to the meetings! All we want is for you to have a good relationship with Jehovah!" nonsense, but kinda gave up on it when they realized I wasn't susceptible to their brand of manipulation.

  Although I was POMO since my early teens, I found that some of the indoctrination I endured as a child really reared it's ugly head and caused me to feel this lingering sense of guilt about celebrating holidays and birthdays. Even up until last year, I was still feeling guilty about celebrating Christmas. This year, I just let all that guilt go and fully enjoyed myself for the first time. Words cannot explain how liberating it is to finally free myself of the mental and emotional chains that were instilled in me as a child. Just wanted to share this with everyone. Thanks for listening!
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  Name A Problem That Nationalism Has Solved

  by Fred Franztone in

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  are there any?.

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  None. Nationalism creates an "us" and "them" and seeks to legitimize state violence towards vulnerable members of a given society. It consistently and undoubtedly leads to violence. This ideology is especially dangerous because they present themselves as natives valiantly defending the "Homeland," and that danger is compounded with attempts to tie "National Identity" to race. It would be entertaining to hear to racist present an argument in favor of it LOL
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  Why dont practicing JWS cant accept the fact that the Watchtower Corporation is a commercialized false prophet ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the majority of people who investigate the activities of the wts from its beginning history there were obvious false proclamations and doctrines propagated by the wts.. a matter of fact the wts produced a long list of literature that posted proclamations on the front cover and went into detail of things that were suppose to happen, from jesus returning changing the world in which we live and so on.. wonderful things one might say but not factual or either theologically correct .

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  I find ego at the root of not changing. It is the fear of image: What would people think of me--I was so zealous about JW teaching, and I am not now--what does this tell about my judging ability?

  I think Venus nailed in on the head. They would have to come to terms with the fact that they got swindled. Times that by 10 if they were uber self righteous and over zealous, which categorically, most j dubs can be filed under. We have all seen how people react when they are proven wrong over trivial stuff. Imagine having something you have invested your entire life into, something that caused you to unnecessarily shun friends (or potentially family), go door to door and tell people that if you do not conform to this doctrine you will die by God's wrath, and have it all turn out to be complete BS. Most do not have any sense of identity outside of the Org, so they would be left feeling utterly hopeless.

  
  
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  What grinds my gears most about being part of a high control religion!

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the one thing that annoys me most about being a jdub is the control watchtower has over everyone.

  for a start, there is absolutely no liberty in christ.

  there is no freedom to openly express your own thoughts on scripture.

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  Apostate Anonymous

  A few years ago, my Mom was telling me about an assembly her and my father were at where the GB was there for a release of a new publication. She told me that when the GB brought the book out, people starting getting all emotional and crying. It struck me as weird and I haven't been able to forget about it. It really shows the level of control the GB really has over the organization.
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  Do you (or did you) have much of a social life as a Jehovahs Witness.

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i ask this question out of interest, because as a jehovahs witness for some 26 years, i have always felt that there is an 'all work, no play' culture within the organisation.

  the organisation doesn't promote social gatherings.

  i could count on one hand each year how many get togethers we have had.

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  Apostate Anonymous

  I was born into a JW family. I went to meetings regularly up until around 13 (age of reason). So I would say my perspective is somewhat limited. Even at a very young age, I noticed that the other kids in the hall were very bland and dull. Like unseasoned food. Luckily for me, I had an older brother who was really cool (plus I went to public school), so I was exposed to much more than most of the kids as they were mostly home schooled. My parents would always try to get me to hang out with the other kids in the hall but I could never vibe with them. The few that I did hangout with from time to time, would snitch me out to their parents because I played some Super Nintendo games that had some very mild violence and it would cause my Dad to get pulled aside by the Elders, which in turn meant that I had to get an earful. When I was around 12, I had some self righteous poster child type tell me I was in the clutches of Satan because I liked skateboarding and punk music.